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\r\nOMR remember you tellin me that our bikes love restricted air flow and backpressure? well if these butterflies are staying open just the slightest bit more than they\'re supposed to then i got a vacuum leak. And then when i crack the throttle its fine cause those flies should open then anyways. its just wierd that 2 different tb\'s are doing the exact same thing, which would mean itws not the tb\'s and the only other thing linked to that subthrottle sensor which controls the top butterflies is the ecu.\r\n
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i will get with you today or tom. if i have time to come get it. or we can meet somewhere tonight to ride?\r\n
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but i would think as soon as you turn the idle up the secondaries would open a little but i guess if the are open too much that could cause the weak idle

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right i get that i was just responding to what he was saying about them opening when he hit the throttle because turning up the idle is the same as opening the throttle\r\n
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those secondary blades are what make the damn kawis pull so hard\r\n